Is this the end of winholdem or are you going to fight back?
It's absolutely the end, can't you see it? end.
Come'on
I know well enterprises producing software for billions. There is a model (ref Geofrey moore) about core and context. You always need to find what is your core, that is where and how you differentiate, and what is your context. In the industry there is extreme amount of standartization, a lot of open source projects are simply adopted. Look at IBM eclipse open source dev tools platform, all vendors - bea, oracle, sap are going toward adopting ecplipse and deprecating their own tools.
So for me sayign WH died/will die is like a 2+2 mob statement "online poker died/will die because of bots".
What Ray can think of, is more formalized atittude toward OH (e.g. promise backward compatibility; provide internal docu etc. - these are positive examples of course).
Everyone should look much more to the opportunity that OH brings (as a great new product), insttead of WH being dead or not ...
P.S. On the earlier discussion how much botters are willing to contribute, I agree botting is special in this regard. But it comes back to the core/context question. The whole differentiator I have as a botter is my strategy (and to small extend on which sites i can play). therefore the framework itself I would like to have as better as possible and i'am willing to contribute to that, and I have no issue if it's good for others as well, as long as it is good for me. this is cotnext for me. my core is better bots.
But it has to be proven that this will work. With the wiki that i started, 95% of the content is from me. But there are guys that came already and contributed, some even went that far to write emails to mike caro and ask him for info and to contribute (this example is for the not so much known topic of Orac).
P.S.2. Current list of most wanted pages on the pokerbot-wiki:
Vexbot (4 links)
PPRO (4 links)
Exploitive play (3 links)
E-Nash equilibrium (3 links)
World Series of Poker (2 links)
Winngy (2 links)
Reference here (2 links)
Aaron Davidson (2 links)
Denis Papp (2 links)
Nash Equilibrium (2 links)
Martin Zinkevich (2 links)
WH is actually a package consisting of the bot engine, Bring, Winscrape and the Ppro server. Openholdem (OH) currently has just a beta version of a bot engine. It cannot work alone. I suspect the single most critical factor which will determine the relative success of the platforms is the availability of maintained scraper profiles (or equivalent) for each.
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-and skillful the bot. -htc (~2000 AD)